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If you are considering a frontal shot, learn where the THORACIC INLET is. You have to first visualize the angle to heart and the arteries above the heart and know where the major leg/shoulder bones are. He was kind of in limbo there. Huntsman...all we're doing here is trading opinions on the worthiness of the frontal shot. stay on the single path, if that keeps you happy and contented. I would have felt very bad to have wounded him. Distance is 15 yards. As the moose gets closer , just start to rattle the bush and he normally will turn and go towards your shaking bush allowing you a broadside shot. Thanks Bentshaft...I hope you get a close broadsider! Don't get me wrong, hope is not a plan and rising to the occasion is in the same boat. I had a bull stare at me from 7 yds when I was at full draw. arrow flying at 290 fp/s, with a 125 Slick Trick Standard at the end,(can group 2" with broadheads at 30 yrds. I think Hawkeye's video above is a great learning piece. Huge collection, amazing choice, 100+ million high quality, affordable RF and RM images. Makes sense, mostly. Pixabay. Seeing the results the guys you talk to it just add some weight to their words in my book...."and makes the conversation a little more fluent", "I actually prefer moose pointed in a different direction then "At me" when they are shot. Well, for that matter I'm sure we could turn the moose around 180 degrees and have guys argue that THIS is a great shot. No truer words have been spoken. I believe thats why the original question states "close range"... Just as with elk, most who condone the frontal shot need to do more studying on their critters. Bull is close and facing head on, level ground.......only shot you have. If you're down in the sternum though, that's way low, you butched up the shot. "Can't afford the weight of five axes in my quiver.". Niklas Jeromin. So it wasn’t at a “rocking and walking" head-on...looking for a fight” bull, but standing still eye-balling the hunter who was at full draw. And shooting a moose front on, from a treestand, would always be a no no, unless the bull was above you on a steep hill, where you had basically the same as a ground level shot. If not.... well, don't take it. life offers lots of opportunities to expand ones horizons. Line up the back edge of the front leg and visualize the body in thirds. However, the bull that was taken with the frontal was at a close 12 yards, with a measly 56 lb bow, shooting a mere 400-grain arrows, which buried to the fletch. A bull Moose feeds in front of Katahdin at sunset. That would be about the only way to hit it in the “breastbone”…. Бесплатно скачать в высоком разрешении. One made it 60 yards. Look at the side profile of this moose then imagine you are standing 10 yds in front of him, if you shoot your arrow right under his mouth your hitting pretty low on the moose. If you shoot low in the front you will kill the critter , but not likely will you recover it. I agree an elk is not a moose. J, I wish all the very best during the upcoming season…, "This is the photo I took just before I sat my camera down and picked up my bow. Or ANY shot. A 75yd angling frontal shot on a Sable and I found the bullet under the skin in the flank. Trick is to shoot at the heart. Off to Portugal tomorrow for driven boar and my home loads will be the ammo of choice. Freddie Mercury, at Live Aid, Wembley Stadium, 1985 The package, the parcel, the meat house, the fruit basket, the lunchbox, or just plain old junk - call it what you will but the bulging male crotch has a long and noble history in popular music. I am not against the broadside shot and take a large percentage of the critter I kill with them, but they sure haven’t treated me or others with which I have hunted, nearly as kindly, as has the frontal or backend shots. If the moose is looking at 3 or 9 o' clock then those are the classic broadside shots. The archer, encouraged by the cameraman to wait for a clear vitals shot waits for the moose to turn. Knowing an animal’s make up and listening to what your arrow says, will give you far more knowledge, than listening to a bunch of arm chair quarterbacks. https://www.alamy.com/a-bull-moose-feeds-in-front-of-katahdin-at-sunset-image369523412.html, Female moose grazing and thinking about charging the photographer, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-female-moose-grazing-and-thinking-about-charging-the-photographer-133208262.html, https://www.alamy.com/eurasian-moose-sweden-europe-alces-alces-image61768044.html, A moose in front of the Bennington Center for the Arts - Vermont, USA, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-moose-in-front-of-the-bennington-center-for-the-arts-vermont-usa-143115226.html, Bull Moose (Alces alces) in the autumn tundra in front of the snow-covered mountains of the Alaska Range, Denali National Park, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bull-moose-alces-alces-in-the-autumn-tundra-in-front-of-the-snow-covered-35081542.html, A young calf moose (alces alces) smiffing and bumping a large bull moose's antlers while the bull rests during the autumn rut, South-central Alaska, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-young-calf-moose-alces-alces-smiffing-and-bumping-a-large-bull-mooses-135481041.html, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-wrecked-car-after-collision-with-moose-alces-alces-on-road-in-scandinavia-133447576.html. I understand if the frontal shot is not for you and would never condone a shot that people don't feel comfortable with. That is PERFECTLY correct, and you should continue to state that claim to anyone who is either not familiar with the frontal skeletal structure of ANY big game critter, or that has a “limited” effective ability to hit a certain size of target point, (especially if they are limited by their equipment choice as they reap their rewards in other ways). Terms and conditions  ~   If one hits where he is suppose to on a close frontal shot, bone is of no concern. Way too much error involved in this shot. Those who do, who know, practice, study and work within it's limitations.... are quite obviously successful with it. I think shooting for Huntsmans circle is a bit low...tough shot with his head low like that, I would pass but here is a cool video.... ;). All were with modern archery gear, (another eye-sore I’m sure to some in this discussion), and only one of those was taken with a frontal shot. But in all the years I have bow hunted, I have never hit and lost an animal hit on a frontal shot, nor have I seen anyone else I have hunted with loose one. No need to make it harder than it needs to be.....The 30 extra seconds on the 10 day hunt wasn't really all that bad..:). The ribs are only a little bigger in the front. https://www.alamy.com/moose-stands-on-grassy-meadow-in-front-of-forest-in-autumn-copy-pace-image157427948.html, A moose splashes through a lake in front of an evergreen pine forest at Horseshoe Lake in Denali Natl Park, Alaska, USA, https://www.alamy.com/a-moose-splashes-through-a-lake-in-front-of-an-evergreen-pine-forest-at-horseshoe-lake-in-denali-natl-park-alaska-usa-image355204524.html. ...and when several hunters above state they have actually taken the frontal shot on a moose and have been successful, it is written off as "accidentally-lucky". Usually with the drilling wich is on pair with the 7mm. Ideally, the best is a broadside shot through the heart, which is also through both lungs. This thread specifically says MOOSE.Elk in close do not behave the same as moose. The described frontal shot from the treestand on the whitetail is simply a description of a deer hit far too low in one lung, with an injured sternum. What is Vicki shooting...Bow #, arrow weight- anyone? Copyright complaints  ~   It all gets back to knowledge and understanding the quarry you hunt and knowing the way they are made up. I am not saying I would never take the shot but things would have to be more than perfect to do so.. and the chances of that happening are a bit less than waiting a few momnets for the broadside shot to present itself.. Man holding a moose head over his own head wearing a t-shirt that says 'Today Matters', standing in front of a blue shed. That you took your moose with trad gear, does that mean that everyone who uses trad gear never lost a moose? He fell over dead within 10 yards before I could even get another arrow nocked. Apparently you have a problem with people not sharing your opinions in favor of the frontal moose shot...or is it the longbow your anger and sarcasm is directed toward? Put another thousand pounds of bulk behind that elk. Use the rule of thirds for a broadside shot. :-)". I'm not sure that was where he was aimin but that's where he hit the bull. https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-standing-as-high-as-21-m-at-the-shoulder-the-alaskan-moose-alces-alces-75021695.html. https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-moose-hunter-sitting-on-a-stump-with-a-litle-fire-in-front-holding-90217530.html. If you hit the "breast bones", you missed your mark. Just because something can be done, doesn't mean it should be...done. The bull whirled around at the shot then the trailcam went off and captured this photo. A frontal shot right through the chest. I tend to look at it this way: The OP specifically asked about frontal shot opinions and did NOT ask for facts...there being basically none to quote. On a broadside shot, with a decently heavy bow, there's not problem, but with a long bow or recurve or low power bow, don't for a minute think every arrow is going into the chest of a moose. I'll be back in Alaska in six days adding to my moose experiences, though. Finally the cameraman grunts and gives a cow call and the bull moves... actually walking closer! How does hoping to hit an artery or vein in the rear or shooting through feet of rumen and intestine to get to the vitals compare to a frontal shot? Her stage name is a direct reference to the Halsey Street station of the New York City Subway in Brooklyn. I see often on this site the whole "1 out of 15 archers should take this shot", what is that? We are beating a dead horse, and BB shot it! I made a bad mistake on that hunt and with that shot and I will never make that same mistake on a moose again. I also don't think a (relatively speaking) puny deer, pronghorn or other thin-skinned animal compares to a 1600 pound moose. IdyllwildArcher 22-Feb-14. Frontal shot at 220 yards on mature bull, you can see that’s a fair bit of penetration and bullet is still intact, the Tahr didn’t move… We have shot approximately 50 ‘big game’ animals and a few smaller critters — wallabies and goats — with the 200gr ELD-X, and about 20 animals with the 178gr. I am going on my AK moose hunt in less than three weeks...No way am I risking a frontal shot on a big moose. Take the shot or you need to practice more.You will miss 100% of the shots you never take. moose, bull moose, antler, bull, head, wild animal, enclosure, animal portrait, elk park, mammal, animal Public Domain unfortunately for those that cannot grasp a new idea are destiny to keep walking the narrow single path of closed mindless. IMO he was actually TRYING to get a broadside shot angle and hit too far forward. As a hunter, I would like to know about something that worked for someone else and helped them harvest an animal successfully. I only take the shots I know will do that. Anyone have the approximate size of the inlet? https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-moose-was-grazing-in-front-of-the-purple-colored-mountain-at-rocky-50777628.html, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bull-moose-in-front-of-mt-mckinley-denali-national-park-alaska-31227699.html, Moose (Alces alces) cow in pond breaks from filter feeding and stares at camera, Grand Teton National Park, Wyoming, USA, https://www.alamy.com/moose-alces-alces-cow-in-pond-breaks-from-filter-feeding-and-stares-image68359878.html, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-moose-alces-alces-bull-grand-teton-npwyoming-usa-26255071.html, https://www.alamy.com/a-moose-in-front-of-beautiful-fall-colors-image336043527.html, elk, European moose (Alces alces alces), cow elk standing with her two calf elks in front of a bush, Norway, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-elk-european-moose-alces-alces-alces-cow-elk-standing-with-her-two-58104129.html, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-moose-alces-alces-bull-grand-teton-npwyoming-usa-26214858.html, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-female-moose-grazing-and-thinking-about-charging-the-photographer-133208251.html, https://www.alamy.com/eurasian-moose-sweden-europe-alces-alces-image62050941.html, Fancy Mouse. cmonphotography. My guess.... shot angles follow much the same success rate. I am off soon to photo more antelope and hopefully see a buck I want to shoot. When the bull got 10 yards away he turned and gave me a broadside shot. Have you been in hunting situations with that many different people to see how they react? Then the moose walks right up to within FEET of the hunter and turns his head exposing an opening to the vitals. I laughed at one of the Primos boys (Keith Burgess) last night when he said the frontal shot was “such a low percentage shot”, and then holding up a water bottle he said, “you only have a target the size of the bottom of this bottle…”. There are no laws about shot placement. His results are lots of dead animals and zero losses with the frontal shot. Some guys have that accuracy level at 20 yards. I know this is a controversial subject, but hear me out. much happiness and success to them, for me I wish to venture down the other forks in the road to see what's around the next bend and over the next peak. anybody got any frontal shot photos's on where to aim, I'm pretty much a broadside guy but I'm willing to take a look. All shots completely transected the chest. It isn't that simple. A frontal shot in their chest could break a rear leg. His head was lowered as he was coming in for a fight. I'm decidedly no expert. McKinley, Denali National Park, Alaska. https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-moose-display-with-bicycle-in-front-of-country-store-in-michigan-77463790.html, https://www.alamy.com/a-front-view-of-a-wild-bull-moose-alces-alces-looking-forward-in-his-forest-habitat-in-jasper-national-park-in-alberta-canada-image382102588.html, Calf moose kneeling and grazing on lawn grass in the front yard of a house decorated for Halloween, Anchorage, Alaska, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-calf-moose-kneeling-and-grazing-on-lawn-grass-in-the-front-yard-of-30581158.html. You guys are trying to make a frontal shot harder than it is. Love the pictures. And for those of you who have not viewed the video I placed on my antleope thread, I will post it here. Right? I wish somebody had a frontal shot of that moose rack. After watching "Moose Mania"....I think I would wait it out. This the equivalent of shooting into steel belted truck tire. I might consider someone who's done it at least a half dozen times (on a moose, remember) to be qualified to recommend it. https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bull-moose-in-front-of-mt-mckinley-also-called-denali-denali-national-39287710.html, front face silhouette reindeer with horns, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-front-face-silhouette-reindeer-with-horns-126273762.html, A cow moose and its yearling exchange a loving kiss in Denali National Park, Alaska, USA, https://www.alamy.com/a-cow-moose-and-its-yearling-exchange-a-loving-kiss-in-denali-national-park-alaska-usa-image365273462.html, https://www.alamy.com/a-moose-in-front-of-beautiful-fall-colors-image336041922.html, elk, European moose (Alces alces alces), cow elk standing with her two calf elks in front of a bush and feeding, Norway, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-elk-european-moose-alces-alces-alces-cow-elk-standing-with-her-two-58104127.html, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-moose-alces-alces-in-snow-48849243.html, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-female-moose-grazing-and-thinking-about-charging-the-photographer-133208257.html, https://www.alamy.com/eurasian-moose-sweden-europe-alces-alces-image62051177.html, https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-swedish-moose-51354435.html. It's been said that arrogance is a form of it. Moose are much more prone to posture up making a broadside a very possible option...elk....not so much. Seriously, does anyone have any knowledge on dimensions, shot angles, etc, besides my buddy stories and cooked up stats? Not every frontal shot is the same. While a rear shot is obviously completely unacceptable, some seasoned deer hunters opt to go for a frontal shot to the chest. Botas MOOSE RACING para Enduro e Motocross. Find cow moose stock images in HD and millions of other royalty-free stock photos, illustrations and vectors in the Shutterstock collection. I remember one moose I shot three times in the span of about 10 seconds. bull moose head shot - bull moose stock pictures, royalty-free photos & images. (bush is thick up here). I have a lot of confidence that the extreme majority of serious experienced moose hunters (and moose guides) would advise strongly against the frontal shot. with a 498 gr. My uncle killed a bull a few years ago with a frontal at 4 1/2 yards! I've taken the frontal shot once on a WT buck and was delighted with the outcome. the super sharp broadhead needs to go into the moose to kill it quickly, it appears there are more paths for that to happen than some are willing to admit to. The moose launches forward at the shot and bowls Dwight over. But prejudice aside and personal bias aside, the close in, straight away shot is a very deadly shot and in my opinion, more deadly by far, than are most broadside shots. Contributors to this thread: Bullwinkle 21-Feb-14. Think moose brisket is a piece of cake? Matter of fact Kevin, even though 14 or 15 (ha ha) bowhunter’s don't agree, the straight away shot is a very deadly shot providing you keep the arrow below hip bone and between the back legs. No need to register, buy now! If you don't know the make up of a critter or you can't put the arrow where it belongs, you will end up losing critters on either shot. Usually with the drilling wich is on pair with the 7mm. The bull is absolutely dead. High respect should be given to the game we hunt since they give their life for our entertainment. I passed on a nice bull last year because all he offered was a frontal shot. Do it!" Normally when a moose gets in close , walking right towards you , they have their head lowered to about 1/2 mast . TD 22-Feb-14. It seems to me that if this was such a risky, low percentage shot, that I would have experienced a high number of losses. Incidentally: The 3 A-Y bulls I referred to were all shot with longbows (2) and recurve (1). Lickly every time I’ve passed on a frontal shot another angle presents itself. However on broadside shots, using the same equipment, the results have not always been positive. Then the moose walks right up to within FEET of the hunter and turns his head exposing an opening to the vitals. Entdecke kostenlose Frontal Shot Stockbilder für den persönlichen und kommerziellen Gebrauch. That is what is truly important and what will preserve bowhunting!----its not just waiting for a broadside shot------! Here are some of mine from the last years: Now THAT'S one very logical reason against I could cozy up to! It's easy to second guess sitting here and not having a monster bearing down on you like that. He whirled and turned as he ran away. I'm guessing you could argue a field point straight into the eyeball would drop a moose instantly. A FL whitetail broadside shot I meant to say. How about a frontal shot on moose using a rage with a compound pulling 35lbs at 40 yards :). You can go back for years and read my many posts, how I qualify that shot. Differing opinions don't need to be interpreted as "I think you're stupid". All these details affect the likely outcome. Moose Vitals: A broadside or slightly quartered away Moose offers up a hunter the best chance at a double lung shot or even heart shot. 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